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  JW anti-gay children movie viral in Netherlands national media + official reaction of JW spokesman Branch office

  by Gorbatchov in

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  various dutch (netherlands) media mentioned the anti-gay children movie on jw.org,.

  and gay, lesbian, transgender and bisexual organizations are shocked, and some gay people.

  are reporting the movie to the local police.. the official spokesman of the dutch branch office in emmen declared that the movie is.

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  @Barrold Bonds

  Translations are mine; nuance may be lost.

  http://www.rtlnieuws.nl/editienl/jehovas-maken-kinderfilm-homos-niet-welkom-het-paradijs (National commercial TV station)

  Michel van Hilten, spokesman for JW, is not bothered by the negative reactions to the video. "We feel it is within our freedom of speech to post these videos." But he wants to emphasize he has no intention to insult or offend people with this children's animation. "I don't think the video is cause for that."
  According to Van Hilten the target audience for the video is 'primary children of Jehovah's Witnesses'. "And other people who are interested. We haven't posted the video on YouTube on purpose: it's better suited on our site, and people should watch it there."
  Moreover he says that videos posted on the site, are never intended to be pedantic, (en)forcing or directing[?]. COC Nederland [LBGT rights association] requests JW Netherlandsto remove the video. Only if the 'outrage is justified', the Jehovah's will decide to take the video offline.

  http://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/kritiek-op-jehovah-s-getuigen-om-anti-homo-kinderfimpje~a4294809/ (National newspaper, a serious one, not a tabloid)

  Spokesman for JW NL Michel van Hilten doen't understand the criticism. 'I can't imagine people take offense to this video. We just want to tell our children that different principles exist in society.'
  According to Van Hilten, children don't need to convince their class mates of the ideas of JW. 'We have a complete different intention with this video. We are absolutely not homophobic. Defenitely not.'
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  May 2, 2016 Re: Entrance Time at Regional Conventions

  by wifibandit in

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  may 2, 2016 to all congregations in the united states branch territory re: entrance time at regional conventions.

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  Anders Andersen

  Just a random thought: could it be that the dubs ignore decency and rules wrt convention placing as it is the only time a year they can safely rebel against Watchtower without getting summoned into the back room?
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  RC 2016 Leaks & Releases

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
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  in an effort to reduce the number of posts, this year i will try to add links to this post.

  now, on with the leaks & releases!

  first up.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nzvwhflss4.

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  Anders Andersen

  Wow I wonder how this ridiculousness will be accepted with my relatively levelheaded JW countrymen and -women.

  I really hope they see through this nonsense...
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  I was reading the thread about the use of technology at the meetings, do the JW's still place the WT and Awakes ?

  by wwjdnwt in

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  i haven't been to a meeting in years, or door to door in years.

  i have been out for a long time now.

  my mom visited recently and she is a devoted jw for 50 years now.

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  Anders Andersen

  @Vidiot,

  How else could elders possibly measure your spiritul health? I mean...really talking with dubs as if they are human beings is not precise enough, too much work, and too hard to summarize for the CO.
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  I was reading the thread about the use of technology at the meetings, do the JW's still place the WT and Awakes ?

  by wwjdnwt in

  1. watchtower
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  i haven't been to a meeting in years, or door to door in years.

  i have been out for a long time now.

  my mom visited recently and she is a devoted jw for 50 years now.

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  Anders Andersen

  Digital placings (ie showing a video, mailing a link to JW.org) are counted on the field service report now too (but not reported to HQ)
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  I was reading the thread about the use of technology at the meetings, do the JW's still place the WT and Awakes ?

  by wwjdnwt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i haven't been to a meeting in years, or door to door in years.

  i have been out for a long time now.

  my mom visited recently and she is a devoted jw for 50 years now.

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  Anders Andersen

  Yeah, but not nearly as much. Mostly videos, tracts, stuff they had lying around in stock, and some WT/Awake. The latter two have been reduced from 32 pages to 16, and only 1 issue per month (instead of 2)...
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  New Anti Gay Cartoon Video not available in German

  by Daniel1555 in

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  2. scandals

  the lesson 22 video or better called anti gay video went viral.. there is another thread that main dutch media covered it in their articles.. i wanted to write to one of the biggest swiss newspapers about it.

  that newspaper also covered the controversy about the "meeting" cartoon, where the message is made that if jw children don't listen at the meetings they might get killed finally.. then i realized that it is not available in german.. it is available in so many other languages, like guarani (never heard of that language), but german is missing.. are they afraid to offer it in german?

  do they expect too much controversy in germany?.

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  @Menrov,

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5135562243571712/jw-anti-gay-children-movie-viral-netherlands-national-media-official-reaction-jw-spokesman-branch-office
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  The Watchtower's Medical Bible - the HLC handbook

  by rebel8 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  posting this pm at the request of orphan crow:.

  from a medical virtual library in spain:

  "fernando martinez guerrero, the liaison committee hospitals of jehovah's witnesses , has made ​​the library a collection of abstracts of scientific articles related to blood conservation techniques and perioperative ( blood conservation techniques and perioperative planning ).

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  Anders Andersen

  So Witnesses who are farmers are not allowed to use blood as a fertilizer for their crops, but Witnesses working in SABM are allowed to 'advance blood management'? 'Managing blood' is something different from not using blood at all...

  Regardless of WT Society involvement, shouldn't every Witness working for SABM DFed?
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  New Anti Gay Cartoon Video not available in German

  by Daniel1555 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the lesson 22 video or better called anti gay video went viral.. there is another thread that main dutch media covered it in their articles.. i wanted to write to one of the biggest swiss newspapers about it.

  that newspaper also covered the controversy about the "meeting" cartoon, where the message is made that if jw children don't listen at the meetings they might get killed finally.. then i realized that it is not available in german.. it is available in so many other languages, like guarani (never heard of that language), but german is missing.. are they afraid to offer it in german?

  do they expect too much controversy in germany?.

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  Anders Andersen

  Gorbatchov, alles goed? ;-)

  Indeed Dutch JW tend(ed) to be somewhat independent from headquarters. Apparently in some cases directions from HQ were put aside saying 'that won't work here'. Some examples I know of:

  • In earlier years, most convention delegates would be housed in private homes with worldy people. Not in NL, contrary HQ instructions. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2007004#h=27
  • No more food and drinks at big meetings: in NL we continued to serve just coffee and tea for some years, longer than any other country. Reason: not providing coffee and tea is inhospitable and won't work here. If I remember correctly they still have coffee and tea at circuit meetings.
  • Donating by debit/credit card was introduced at large meetings. Then after 1 or 2 years suddenly no more. Apparently they failed to ask HQ for permission? And then a letter was received that it pleased the holy spirit and the seven goats to get their money wired in after all.
  • Those living in kingdom hall appartments had to pay rent. Afaik unheard of in other countries, and contrary instructions?

  
  

  And the regular dubs are similar, not following every rule very strictly.
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  JW anti-gay children movie viral in Netherlands national media + official reaction of JW spokesman Branch office

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  various dutch (netherlands) media mentioned the anti-gay children movie on jw.org,.

  and gay, lesbian, transgender and bisexual organizations are shocked, and some gay people.

  are reporting the movie to the local police.. the official spokesman of the dutch branch office in emmen declared that the movie is.

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  Anders Andersen

  ...and then, in the next scene they conveniently left out, when the kid asks how to get to Paradise, she'll hear something like 'obey the 7 dwarfs, don't marry a woman'.

  Imagine a rusty old van with no plates near a playground. A shady looking guy offers candy to some little kids. "There's more candy at my place!" he says.

  He did nothing wrong, right? No need to be outraged even when we know he's a registered offender?

  We all know how that JW indoctrinimation would continue.